Anticheat - Detect Cheaters in Public Lobbies 0.1.0

RenegadeX4 · Saturday at 00:03

CowboyBingus
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17 Oct 2026, 4:23AM
Did you bother actually testing your own mod? There are several instances I found after a quick test of about 10-15 minutes where innocent players would be kicked in-game. And, moreover, most of the things this mod checks are easily spoofed. Let me do a quick runthrough.
- Fire rate checks are completely trivial to bypass, and all refill or infinite-ammo cheats evade it. Network jitter (lag), however, causes significant problems for innocent players above 60ms.
- Peers own their ammo capacity. The host has no means of validating what the peer says is accurate. Again, easily evaded as seen above.
- Spare magazine detection was just outright broken in testing. I couldn't even really get it to function properly.
- One-shot kills fail to properly distinguish from vanilla gameplay. Dropships being removed while alive from the game, for example, will flag the last player to shoot it and boot them.
- Off-arc tank guns also flag vanilla gameplay. And, moreover, this one doesn't even bother to check the person is flagging it is even in the tank.
- Tank speed flags any innocent player where two lag-corrections occur under 60s.
- Your tank seating code is also completely broken and reading the wrong addresses. A player who climbs into the driver, then exits and enters the gunner seat, can be flagged and booted because of this.
- Automated reloads is trivially evaded with a small random delay.
- Stratagem loadout checks were also trivially evaded because, again, the host does not validate peer claims.
I didn't bother going through any other checks because there was so much wrong that I just stopped there. This mod is harmful to innocent players while still enabling modders.

The only proper solution is a full-fledged detection mechanism, which as you said, does not exist. That is the whole reason I stopped development on my own.
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17 Oct 2026, 4:35AM
It doesn't kick? Also this is literally the first version of the mod, it's a beta. Improving is like kinda the point. Thank you for your input, ill work on those holes (for those that can be fixed). Is it perfect? No. Will it ever be perfect? No. But it's a tool. If you kick every user that it goes off on, that is on you.

Don't blame the tool maker when the user uses it in a dumb way and causes damage. It helps those that want it and know how to read with basic critical thinking skills. The information is right there. It explains what it found. That's it.
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17 Oct 2026, 4:43AM
The end-user is making decisions based on what your mod tells them. It is your mod's responsibility to be as accurate as possible so that people can make informed decisions. It's disingenuous to claim that the end-user has any capacity to make that determination beyond what the mod already tells them (and as has already been pointed out, is incorrect to begin with).

听阶千雨 · Saturday at 16:23

不生效。

sign40 · Saturday at 16:35

Ever since the Lua mod support dropped, I've been playing HD2 every night—I'm pushing close to 100 hours now—but I have never encountered a single player firing 380mm rounds from their guns. Not one.
I see those "purists" on Nexus whining that people installing god mods are ruining the experience, yet they can't produce a single example. It's just bizarre and laughable.

SuperWeenie · Saturday at 17:40

sign40 said:
Ever since the Lua mod support dropped, I've been playing HD2 every night—I'm pushing close to 100 hours now—but I have never encountered a single player firing 380mm rounds from their guns. Not one.
I see those "purists" on Nexus whining that people installing god mods are ruining the experience, yet they can't produce a single example. It's just bizarre and laughable.

Honestly this, i have almost 800 hours, have never dowloaded these types of mods. And have NEVER come across the types of cheaters this mod and most Hellwhiners claim are "ruining the game".

What this really is, is just console players and purists (people inept at modding) being bitter about not having access to the same cool features mods provide.

Luraj · Saturday at 18:23

This is a very hot topic, and I'd like to ask for people to keep it polite if there's any reply to this comment, or to try to be open minded about the situation in general. We are all here to express our thoughts and opinions on the subject, but don't forget that your points and opinions may get disconsidered if you're too passionate about the subject. With that out of the way, let's go for it.

1 - Some players may just want the vanilla experience, to which this may help discern players that are using mods and players that aren't;

2 - Some players just want to be aware of what others are using, which this mod has the potential to do, since the sky is the limit (althought it doesn't right now). To this situation, I will always refer to how Payday 2 dealt with mods, being a Payday 2 veteran, I can safely say that, yes, many mods were annoying to deal with in public lobbies, and they were way more proeminent, leading to the community becoming very trigger happy with kicking players or demanding to know which mods were being used. As time went on, the devs took the opportunity to create a feature that segregates Modded VS Unmodded lobbies, which was great.
As is, the mod states that it does not condone witch hunting, yet, the very premisse of the mod's name and nature of the topic at hand can incentivize the user of said mod to kick someone that they may find to be using mods, thus creating what Payday 2 went through, a scenario where modded users where shunned, but at the end of the day, it was the mods that kept the game alive and with renewed strength. Of course, mods can be anything, and it comes down to the modded user to delineate what is good for public use and what is not.

3 - The name "HD2 Anticheat" can influence someone to stirr a bad stigma towards players that are flagged as such, specially in its current state which does not detect things properly, or flags things that are just a part of the game as "suspicious", such as going downhill with a vehicle will likely flag a player, but that's just gravity (unconfirmed on this one, but a possibility I will test later. However, I've seen comments about it giving false flags). I've seen it happening in Payday 2, and if history taught me something, is that it happens again, and again.

4 - ArrowHead does not know how to balance things. We have a booster (expert extraction pilot) which is only activated once in the entire mission, while someone could bring something else which is more useful. Weapons are constantly overshadowed by others that are constantly relieable. This is a toxic meta scenario, where players are constantly forced to pick weapons that they don't necessarely want to use in order to play the game in a manner that isn't miserable. Modding, with the proper due regard to balancing in general, can fix that.

My thoughts
1 - I'd swap the name from HD2 Anticheat to HD2 Mod Detection or something like that.
2 - Once again, the mod has a lot of potential to help those that want to have a more vanilla experience. However, unless there's a way to segregate succesfully vanilla players that are using this mod from modded players, I don't see the end result being optimistic, in fact, I expect to see players kicking others or pointing fingers to them for using mods.
3 - Some mods could be worked with in order to restrict online play if they're in use, be it from the mod creator or even the framework creator's (bingus) whitelisting mods for online play and blacklisting mods for private lobbies only. Though, it may be too much for one person to handle, and I don't expect someone to burden themselves wtih this much work, perhaphs a group? I'm not entirely certain on this point either, due to the mentality of "who decides what is a good mod and who doesn't?" type of thing other than ArrowHead themselves, but then again, if we leave it to ArrowHead, we may get screwed all over again, let's not forget that they tend to buff things only if they're related to a new warbond, and even then, we may still get fine aged milk with new content.

SuperWeenie · Saturday at 18:27

Luraj said:
This is a very hot topic, and I'd like to ask for people to keep it polite if there's any reply to this comment, or to try to be open minded about the situation in general. We are all here to express our thoughts and opinions on the subject, but don't forget that your points and opinions may get disconsidered if you're too passionate about the subject. With that out of the way, let's go for it.

1 - Some players may just want the vanilla experience, to which this may help discern players that are using mods and players that aren't;

2 - Some players just want to be aware of what others are using, which this mod has the potential to do, since the sky is the limit (althought it doesn't right now). To this situation, I will always refer to how Payday 2 dealt with mods, being a Payday 2 veteran, I can safely say that, yes, many mods were annoying to deal with in public lobbies, and they were way more proeminent, leading to the community becoming very trigger happy with kicking players or demanding to know which mods were being used. As time went on, the devs took the opportunity to create a feature that segregates Modded VS Unmodded lobbies, which was great.
As is, the mod states that it does not condone witch hunting, yet, the very premisse of the mod's name and nature of the topic at hand can incentivize the user of said mod to kick someone that they may find to be using mods, thus creating what Payday 2 went through, a scenario where modded users where shunned, but at the end of the day, it was the mods that kept the game alive and with renewed strength. Of course, mods can be anything, and it comes down to the modded user to delineate what is good for public use and what is not.

3 - The name "HD2 Anticheat" can influence someone to stirr a bad stigma towards players that are flagged as such, specially in its current state which does not detect things properly, or flags things that are just a part of the game as "suspicious", such as going downhill with a vehicle will likely flag a player, but that's just gravity (unconfirmed on this one, but a possibility I will test later. However, I've seen comments about it giving false flags). I've seen it happening in Payday 2, and if history taught me something, is that it happens again, and again.

4 - ArrowHead does not know how to balance things. We have a booster (expert extraction pilot) which is only activated once in the entire mission, while someone could bring something else which is more useful. Weapons are constantly overshadowed by others that are constantly relieable. This is a toxic meta scenario, where players are constantly forced to pick weapons that they don't necessarely want to use in order to play the game in a manner that isn't miserable. Modding, with the proper due regard to balancing in general, can fix that.

My thoughts
1 - I'd swap the name from HD2 Anticheat to HD2 Mod Detection or something like that.
2 - Once again, the mod has a lot of potential to help those that want to have a more vanilla experience. However, unless there's a way to segregate succesfully vanilla players that are using this mod from modded players, I don't see the end result being optimistic, in fact, I expect to see players kicking others or pointing fingers to them for using mods.
3 - Some mods could be worked with in order to restrict online play if they're in use, be it from the mod creator or even the framework creator's (bingus) whitelisting mods for online play and blacklisting mods for private lobbies only. Though, it may be too much for one person to handle, and I don't expect someone to burden themselves wtih this much work, perhaphs a group? I'm not entirely certain on this point either, due to the mentality of "who decides what is a good mod and who doesn't?" type of thing other than ArrowHead themselves, but then again, if we leave it to ArrowHead, we may get screwed all over again, let's not forget that they tend to buff things only if they're related to a new warbond, and even then, we may still get fine aged milk with new content.

Blah blah blah shut up nerd

Luraj · Saturday at 18:50

Thank you for the very irrelevant comment.

jakeson1211 · Saturday at 18:51

wow ,some ones who can’t even play the game properly finally get a chance to act as righteous judges in a match, passing judgment on other players who clearly look like they’re “cheating.”

Razumen · Saturday at 22:49

Says he's not the fun police, but (tries to) create a mod that detects mods that are fun. Strange strategy Chuck, let's see if it works out for him.

Razumen · Saturday at 22:51

JonnySparta said:
D10s already too easy. I don't need whelps who can't lower their difficulty ruining my fun by actually cheating against pve tyvm.

You probably use up all of the teams revives every round.

Commslopaz1 · Sunday at 04:34

Ngl This mod does nothing other than cosmetics.
Tested with MODDED friend
did not detect anything. Told him to add cheat like 380mm HMG and other obvious modes. but no. this mod does nothing.

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